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[edit] Different uses of IM elements

there are positivist and negativist aspects :

SEI has dominant negative Si, whereas SLI has dominant positive Si LIE has dominant positive Te, whereas LSE has dominant negative Te LII has dominant negative Ti, whereas LSI has dominant positive Ti

There's already a page on "Plus and minus" --Jonathan 02:26, 14 September 2007 (BST)
Or wait...maybe Rick was thinking of "positivist" and "negativist" as different from "+" and "-"; at any rate, I suspect the comment above is thinking about "+" and "-" rather than what Rick was talking about in this article. --Jonathan 02:30, 14 September 2007 (BST)
Yeah, this is something different. --Admin 08:03, 14 September 2007 (BST)
On the the16types forum, user hitta is claiming that there's some sort of article or something by Gulenko that suggests a connection...that is, that the plus/minus thing really is connected to using an IM element in a generative way, or to eliminate negative things. (I know that sounds sort of like the negativist/positivist Reinin thing too.) Have you heard anything close to what hitta is suggesting? Did Gulenko ever propose that using Ne with Fi involves elimination of negative possibilities, whereas using Ne with Ti involves generation of positive possibilities (as hitta is claiming)? --Jonathan 05:25, 16 September 2007 (BST)
Yes, that's how the "plus/minus" signs are sometimes perceived. I don't agree that it works that way in practice, though. And that has nothing to do with what I am talking about here. :) --Admin 06:50, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  • Kudos to Rick on this, I agree completely, and I also think there isn't a strong relationship between this and the so-called positivist-negativist reinin dichotomy, but rather between positive-negative attitude, life experiences, and upbringing. Ideally everybody should use only the positive aspect of the information element they value the most, even when correcting others, imho. FDG 12:42, 5 January 2008 (GMT)FDG
  • Do you have any plans on expanding the (H) use of IM elements? Logos 21:16, 30 March 2009 (BST)
Perhaps eventually. Others' contributions are welcome on this, too. --Admin 21:18, 30 March 2009 (BST)

[edit] Interrelation of the functions

"the amounts of information of different aspects are equal." I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to mean. Are you referring to the amount of information in reality as a whole? Thehotelambush 02:56, 15 September 2007 (BST)

Yes. --Admin 04:14, 15 September 2007 (BST)
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