Talk:Sensing logical introvert

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"SLIs are most uncomfortable when things or people are not placed in the proper direction or position, and when things do not move properly." -- This needs some further explanation, Brout. --Admin 15:37, 8 September 2007 (BST)

This line was a reference to the concrete logic of order that is dynamic. It is opposed to the abstract logic of order that is static. If there is bodily sensation of dissonance, the will not stop until order is found and created.--Brout

OK, that makes more sense. I added a line to     to cover much of what you're saying about sensations of dissonance or misplacement. If there's more that relates more to    , please elaborate. --Admin 22:09, 8 September 2007 (BST)

Thought Police Reference-Was this considered to be in bad taste? I think it is a very accurate description of many ISTps, male and female that I have met.

Can you explain what you mean about the Thought Police Reference? And please sign your comments.--Electric 17:42, 24 November 2007 (GMT)

[edit] superficiality

"SLIs tend to be aware of the superficiality of the world and tend to make a point of it. SLIs can think that everyone (including themselves) is superficial in some way. Sometimes thinking this superficiality is to be frowned upon, sometimes embracing some or many superficial habits, things, ways of thinking and goals." <--- am I talking rubbish? --Electric 16:03, 28 October 2007 (GMT)

That definitely has a lot of truth in it, but it is a bit unclear in places. SLIs seem to avoid and criticize "unnatural" behavior of any kind (especially the     and     varieties), preferring to live and do everything as they feel like it, ignoring public opinion as much as possible. Is that remotely what you had in mind by superficiality? --Admin 19:49, 28 October 2007 (GMT)

I didn't have that in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of Paris Hilton, OK, Gossip papers, Celebrity, living in the 'right' part of town, going to the 'right' restaurants superficiality. --Electric 13:58, 29 October 2007 (GMT)

OK, I agree with that, but it probably needs to be said more clearly somehow. --Admin 14:09, 29 October 2007 (GMT)

Its usually contrasted with a deeper meaning and purpose (which I see as Ni). So I'm guessing it's the complete opposite of Ni, which would be Si or Se. The idea of surrounding and draping yourself in it for the sake of just doing it (not as a status symbol or any powerful signals)I think would go towards Si > Se. That's my guess anyway. --Electric 14:32, 29 October 2007 (GMT)

Changed my mind about this.--Electric 19:35, 25 April 2008 (BST)

I've seen this in SEIs, criticism of people acting unnaturally, doing things that don't agree with their actual sensibilities. Now I'm thinking it's related to Si > Se values, although in an SEI's mind it probably has something to do with Fe too (they see how people are literally acting), so they tend to be more openly critical of people being "fake". Thehotelambush 20:39, 27 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] SLI and taking action

'Taking action to better their economic or social condition does not often appeal to the SLI.' First of all : taking action related to Ni? And doesn't bettering economic condition have more to do with Te or Se. And if it does that goes against the Te in 2nd and Se in 7th.

I agree. It related to Se. SLI are not pushy about their social status. They just live. It doesn't relate to Ni at all. -- Brout 17:49, 18 Feburary 2008 (EST)

[edit] demands

'SLIs try to avoid making demands on others and themselves '. I think it would depend on what the demands are. --Electric 19:03, 25 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] wholesome activities

Maybe I should be talking about this is the Si section, but I think the idea of wholesome activities (clean and pure activities with a lot of physical involvement that require long term practice to master) is strongly related to how some SLIs and LSEs act.--Electric 19:18, 25 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] economic activity

I've been thinking that maybe SLIs prefer to collect cash rather than invest heavyly in long term investment. I do believe I've seen this is delta ST run business, where the company may have a lot of cash and hardly any investments (can't think of any interesting ideas to improve the company beyond just efficiency) even to the point where it leads the company down the drain.--Electric 19:18, 25 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] inner needs

I do really believe that 'inner needs' is not particularly related to Si. My guess it that SLIs have a more realistic view of what people have to do to get from A to B by avoiding most of the many distortions about how to do things that seem to fly around for no reason and because they are introverts. So it just appears that they are looking after your inner needs. --Electric 19:28, 25 April 2008 (BST)