Talk:Ethical intuitive introvert
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The EII will often engage in activities that others consider absurd.
What?? This requires explanation. Thehotelambush 20:33, 19 November 2007 (GMT)
- I removed that paragraph as being far too vague. The other contributions, I think, are good or decent. --Admin 00:41, 20 November 2007 (GMT)
EIIs have a vast number of hobbies and interest, pursuing whatever interest them at the moment.
I disagree with this point. I don't think EIIs are more like this than many other types — especially adult EIIs, who generally have an acute sense of responsibility. --Admin 11:58, 14 February 2008 (GMT)
Eunice, I disagree with the bulk of your edit. I'm removing it. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 05:50, 1 April 2008 (BST)
I disagree strongly with the Ti part. Does anyone care if I remove it and add something else? Ritella 00:08, 27 October 2008 (GMT)
Also, most of the Si description should really go under Te DS. I will add what I think is Si HA. Please let me know if I can move. Ritella 00:09, 27 October 2008 (GMT)
"While at a party, the EII is likely to cling to the individual they are most comfortable being around." Why is this indicative of EII, rather than simple shyness (which could show in other types as well)? --Kanerou 00:06, 30 March 2009 (BST)
- I've removed that phrase. It doesn't sound unique to EII, not all of whom are shy. --Admin 19:58, 30 March 2009 (BST)
- OK. --Kanerou 16:41, 31 March 2009 (BST)
[edit] Social Roles
Is it possible to find some less "saintly" ones to add? Seriously. --Kanerou 02:45, 17 January 2009 (GMT)
- Yes, please! I quite liked the 3rd one that was removed. Something about EIIs giving good advice to everyone, and having their own lives in complete, obvious disarray. Reminds me of someone I know. (: Ritella 17:08, 17 January 2009 (GMT)
- Maybe I can help brainstorm, and the EII needs more discussion in general among the socionics community (as do quite a few other types). I've known quite a few EIIs and have seen some recurring patterns their lives often seem to take. One common theme is that many end up working too much, possibly out of a sense of obligation or mission. If they feel someone is counting on them, many EIIs forego sleep and rest to fulfill obligations. In general, EIIs seem to put their own needs second (in their post-adolescent life). Most EIIs seem to find themselves in family life, as they have a stable relationship set to attach themselves to and cultivate. The ones who don't find a happy home and long-term relationships seem to be quite lost in life. Some of these turn into the "martyr" type by sacrificing themselves for some abstract values of dubious real-world value, even as they seem unhappy inside. In the adolescent and young adult stage, many EIIs seem happy-go-lucky socialites without a care in the world or any reason to settle... until the harsh reality of having to earn a living and provide for themselves sets in. At this point, I have seen a socialite EII transform within a matter of years into a dour workaholic (without a long-term relationship to cultivate). Except for the occasional unfortunate marriage, the settled and married EIIs seem to do quite well in life and becoming loving parents and generally devote themselves to service of some kind in their professional lives. Many continue to develop creative pursuits, while not allowing them to eclipse their family life or professional service. They certainly aren't self-centered, as IEEs and ILEs seem by comparison. They have hobbies and interests, but they don't let them run completely loose and seem to consider the effect their activities and interests will have on their relationships. Pre-adult EIIs can be quite different, I've found. They can be lazy, rudderless, vain and self-centered, flitting from relationship to relationship, promiscuous, etc. But I don't recall seeing these behaviors among adult EIIs, who have a universal tendency to settle down into a set of family and/or work relationships and try to dedicate themselves to something. --Admin 17:46, 17 January 2009 (GMT)
- Let's not neglect the young and "immature" EII, shall we? Thehotelambush 06:46, 18 January 2009 (GMT)
- I would say that the bookworm and the librarian would be frequent social roles for the EII. --Logos 00:27, 27 April 2009 (BST)
- Let's not neglect the young and "immature" EII, shall we? Thehotelambush 06:46, 18 January 2009 (GMT)
- Maybe I can help brainstorm, and the EII needs more discussion in general among the socionics community (as do quite a few other types). I've known quite a few EIIs and have seen some recurring patterns their lives often seem to take. One common theme is that many end up working too much, possibly out of a sense of obligation or mission. If they feel someone is counting on them, many EIIs forego sleep and rest to fulfill obligations. In general, EIIs seem to put their own needs second (in their post-adolescent life). Most EIIs seem to find themselves in family life, as they have a stable relationship set to attach themselves to and cultivate. The ones who don't find a happy home and long-term relationships seem to be quite lost in life. Some of these turn into the "martyr" type by sacrificing themselves for some abstract values of dubious real-world value, even as they seem unhappy inside. In the adolescent and young adult stage, many EIIs seem happy-go-lucky socialites without a care in the world or any reason to settle... until the harsh reality of having to earn a living and provide for themselves sets in. At this point, I have seen a socialite EII transform within a matter of years into a dour workaholic (without a long-term relationship to cultivate). Except for the occasional unfortunate marriage, the settled and married EIIs seem to do quite well in life and becoming loving parents and generally devote themselves to service of some kind in their professional lives. Many continue to develop creative pursuits, while not allowing them to eclipse their family life or professional service. They certainly aren't self-centered, as IEEs and ILEs seem by comparison. They have hobbies and interests, but they don't let them run completely loose and seem to consider the effect their activities and interests will have on their relationships. Pre-adult EIIs can be quite different, I've found. They can be lazy, rudderless, vain and self-centered, flitting from relationship to relationship, promiscuous, etc. But I don't recall seeing these behaviors among adult EIIs, who have a universal tendency to settle down into a set of family and/or work relationships and try to dedicate themselves to something. --Admin 17:46, 17 January 2009 (GMT)
