Return to Socionics.us home  
 
Introduction to Socionics
Socionics Theory
Socionic Types
Intertype Relations
Socionics in Practice
Issues and Philosophy
Famous People's Types
Notes on Socionics Works and Articles
Interviews and Reports
Wikisocion
Socionics Blog
Socionics Tests
Socionics.us
Web



 
P O S T S
   

Socionics Blog

June 2006

 

 

Psychological compatibility research

In March I asked people at the16types forum if they knew of any research on psychological compatibility. I hadn't come across much of anything before that. I was given a link to a research paper called "Assortive Mating and Marital Quality in Newlyweds: A Couple-Centered Approach." This paper confirmed my suspicions — research on psychological compatibility is at a very low stage of development. The furthest researchers have gone at this point is to basically give couples written tests for marital satisfaction and written tests for personality, values, and other traits and see if they can find any correlation between satisfaction levels and how couples' traits match up to each other.

In my opinion, this approach at best only scratches the surface of compatibility. Where are the experiments requiring people to perform various complex tasks together? Where are the medical specialists who should be measuring the level of stress and pleasure hormones in the blood during participants' interaction with each other? Where are the measurements of degree of eye-contact and countless other quantifiable parameters that are directly related to how partners respond to each other on an unconscious level? That is the kind of research I personally would like to be involved in.


 
06/10/2006 Pieter
I was thinking just that: getting some people together, determining their type and then putting different combinations together and have them solve problems!

I think one of the reasons for this is, that for way to long, science had regarded personality as a nurture-thing. It's only in the last 10 to 15 years that they start to realize that there is actually a lot of nature (i.e. fixed inborn aspects) to it as well.

I think a lot of people won't like it when Socionics starts hitting the Western world ;-)
06/10/2006 Author
I agree. I've seen it done in socionics courses. It was quite interesting. For scientific research on compatibility, though, you don't need to involve socionic types at all. I'm personally interested in this more fundamental research, because it has worth outside of socionics and doesn't depend on subjective typing decisions.
11/29/2006 Fred
Psychological compatibility research:
as i am an irrational type....here are the points in general
>if we assume a cognitive awareness model for non-dual relationships
>>i.e. supervisors have your PrimaryFunction as a SecondaryFunction.
>>i.e. people u hate are able to do your SuperEgo block functions as primary functions...

then the above model proposes 2 interesting things for dual relationships.
/1. your dual has none of your Primary or Secondary functions in there 1st conscious Ego line, and so that you are not able to cognitively sense each other is our suposition.
//so-that to 'sense' each other....we need a set of values, which do not evolve from a cognitive processing___cognitive sensing being the 1st cognitive processing 'evolution'__
we only sense [the dual cognitively] when we have set values..
and values is a more advanced cognitive value,
cause it involves some evolution of the individual...call this learning or suffering, or evolution from fighting, i don't care.

/2. super-ego functions to this,
i do not quite comprehend yet, but as your duals ego functions are your super-ego functions....and as people war against u using super-ego values,
this implies an evolution set above the one for /1.
above 'values' (contextual to this document), of security...
..how do we define security for ourselves,
it is when third function/3rd cognitive values have been assigned....that of what brilliance is like__
let me explain (though i do not understand)...with reference to this post of yours:

same http page:
June 10, 2006
Relationships with non-duals 
your comment:
[intratim square] types and [intratim triangle] types also have overriding considerations when choosing partners, but I'm not able to formulate them right now.

for intratim square...
there dual is extratim ethics/funny square
whose overiding need is somebody to arouse emotion and accept devotion.
in the intratims square's consideration, they want to know who can best appreciate what the formulate or do...
(it's rather assumptive...and self asserting to implicate such an active role to this type)

the intratime triangle...(i a ILI male)
there daul is the extratim sensing
extratim sensing cause of aggressive nature need a conquerer (thats using words in Russian popular psycology..aggresive / Lennin, in a way bullshit, but truer to the female role, whereas a male role might need a conquer with a self assigned psychological or other role, a pitfall for this type would be if they accept popular American popular psychology bullshit that this should be a Freinds sitcom type role, which does not suit the intratim triangle female)
from the popular Russian psychology explainations,
intratim triangle is a soft type,
that is unless the person involved has undergone a psychological evolution which allows them to want to conquer,
(that is also self assertive, and assumptive bull, cause more than anything else, it indicates an active role, where your page assumes receptive roles)
however the reception is in this,
the intratim triangle is an archetect (gee - may be copying Meyer briggs stuff - sorry), and so needs somebody who accepts from them there brightest gifts...
this implies maturity to the person,
for your gifts go to people who share your processing blocks,
but you have to be extra mature or self-infatuated to produce things of such quality, that u would not assign there giving to any other time than your dual.
from this model,
i would imply that the emotional well-being and mutual support,
is merely a secondary thing u discover
 

Relationships with non-duals

So much is written everywhere about ideal dual relations that the other socionic relations deserve some serious rehabilitation. Augusta herself, after formulating the basic socionics theory, wrote something to the effect of, "with information metabolism being what it is, it's a mystery that people in non-dual relations are able to function at all." And yet they do, and many of them perfectly well, at least to most external observers. Many people in non-dual relationships have no thoughts of changing their partners, and many people in dual relationships have such thoughts. Yes, in each case a certain type of information interchange is taking place, which is described by socionics. But there are often overriding factors or interests that can give meaning to long-term close relationships with people who perhaps do not fulfill all your subconscious longings.

The psyche is remarkably adaptable, and people's consciousness generally extends only to those areas that are discussed verbally within one's close relationships and in one's professional life. If you're an intuiter and have never had the chance to thoroughly discuss all the sensing areas of reality within your close relationships, for the most part you won't even be aware of this "omission." What's more, even if you did have the chance to discuss them in the past, but don't anymore, you will forget about it all the same! This is an amazing consequence of the differentiation of the psyche. In other words, people aren't usually aware of what they are missing out on and hence don't generally consciously suffer from the lack thereof.

This isn't just to say that people in non-dual relations are all suffering without realizing it; this is a much broader issue that affects all people who are living below their potential (and that makes 100% of us). Life is full of imperfections, and we are adapted to get benefit out of imperfect situations. A dual relationship may be a fine psychological acquisition, but there are a host of other areas where the match may be imperfect. Likewise, a partner who is not your dual may be an ideal match in many ways while being non-ideal from a socionics standpoint.

In most cases people seem to have an overarching need that they need to have fulfilled in their close relationships. For example, introverted sensing types' main consideration seems to be that their partner is 'pleasant' to be with in a physiological sense. If this is the case, they are willing to forgive many imperfections. extraverted intuition types look for partners who will help them expand their horizons. extraverted sensing types need someone to "conquer." extraverted logic types need someone with whom they can build a rational life together. extraverted ethics need someone who wlll arouse emotion and accept their devotion. introverted ethics types above all need to know they are needed by their partner. introverted logic types and introverted intuition types also have overriding considerations when choosing partners, but I'm not able to formulate them right now.

As long as their principle criterion is met, people can be reasonably happy in their relationships and enjoy a sense of personal meaning.* If that consideration is not met, regardless of their partner's type and the underlying information interchange, that personal meaning is lost.

*NOTE: This is most true of those who have other close relationships that mostly satisfy their subconscious information needs — for example, close friends of the same sex who are duals or activators. You've got to get some of it somewhere, or you may well feel miserable.

 

A socionic view of psychological health

In writing my article today on complementary and resonatory traits in compatible relationships, I stumbled upon a good formulation of psychological well-being and ill-being from a socionics standpoint:

Psychological well-being or health is when a person strives for leadership in the areas they are strong in (i.e. their first and second functions).

Psychological "ill-being" or misfitness is when a person strives for leadership in areas they are weak in.

The second case always produces strain; it is not the natural route for psychic energy to take. The person is probably under the influence of family or group stereotypes, or negative emotions and feelings of worthlessness. Depressed self-esteem often spurs a person to shore up their weaknesses, seek recognition for them, or — in a worst-case scenario — devote themselves to eradicating supposed external sources of their internal pain as soon as they gain positions of influence (Hitler is a classic example of this, as are intuiters with obsessive-compulsive disorder who insist on cleaning everything 10 times).

Psychological health implies accepting others' policy-making in areas one is weak in and striving for recognition for one's strengths. This doesn't mean one should be undiscriminating; one can choose whose policies and decision-making to rely on based on what matches one's own philosophy. The idea is that one shouldn't insist on setting rules in areas they are weak in (for their own good!). Here are some examples of unhealthy behavior:

  • an SEE tells everyone else what to believe in, which views are correct, and which are false
  • an LII submits his children to grueling physical labor in order to make sure they grow up strong
  • an SLE tries to gain recognition as a kind, mild person and a good listener
  • an LSE tries to make others think he is first and foremost an artistic, emotionally expressive person